While I don't know "how-much" brake shoe fins may help for their intended design (whatever that is), a general increase in surface area should aid heat dissipation/transfer to the air. I love it when readers help me fill my own limited knowledge. Take a look at the comments beside yesterday's post on brake shoe fins. See if you can come up with some more "possible" uses. :)
However, the subject of heat production in rims is real. I realize that a few riders out there may still not have come to terms with this. Allow me to wander and bore you.
Think of a 15% gradient downhill slope, narrow and curvy. Now think about your total weight,speed,drag co-efficient yada yada. Think about 60+ mph. Now think a sorry looking deer popping out of no-where just 200m in front of you. Rapid deceleration needed or you and the deer won't make it. Either deer will end up inside you or you'll end up inside the deer through the wrong side and it'll make for an interesting news article.
Picture a sorry looking deerHard relentless braking during such an emergency is a likely candidate for rim temperatures shooting beyond 70 degree C (150 F). Try something like this, stop the bike and then feel the rim yourself. I caution safety first and foremost. Carry an oven glove with you too. It may fit in the jersey pocket. I think Specialized makes one.
In a chapter on 'Braking', in the book Bicycling Science (Gordon,MIT), there is a nice graph of rim temperature above ambient vs speed for a few cases consisting of different bicycles, drag co-efficients, combined masses and wheel diameters.
If I interpret it right, here's the interesting trend as shown by it though. As speed increases, rim heating decreases. More air flows past, hence more cooling and heat dissipation. Nothing hard there to imagine.
Such is the dilemma of downhill racers, says Gordon. Going fast on one hand avoids heating the rim whereas emergency braking on the other presents the danger of suddenly overheating it, making for a very dangerous situation.
How dangerous? If temperatures cross a point, they can soften the tire, blow the sidewall and even cause a tubular glue failure, allowing the tire to slip out. All this can be magnified by the high speed, improper front-rear wheel braking reactions, and poor worn out rims (think twice about buying used wheels from Ebay) and you'll be very lucky to survive if you crash. Some are in disbelief (mostly non-cyclists) when you tell them that cycling is one of the most dangerous sports there is.
In the past I did write a post on this topic and even highlighted a popular Tour de France crash video that I was lucky to find on Youtube. Click here to read.
In general, rim heating depends on the following, not necessarily in order of importance. I wont explain any of the following since I take it that you can apply a little of your own thinking to each.
If I missed something, do point out.
1. Mass of rider+bike - More mass to stop, more dissipative energy.
2. Tire grip and rolling resistance.
3. Deceleration rate - % of g (acceleration due to gravity).
4. Braking surface area and wheel diameter.
5. Slope of road - Dictates speed and type of energy to be dissipated in the brakes. Physics 101.
6. Ambient temperature and weather conditions - Wet vs dry, hot vs cold.
7. Material of the rim, tires, tubes, rim strip or tape, brake pads and shoes.
8. Type and profile of the rim - Streamlined deep vs non-aero. Here's another dilemma abut buying 'faster' wheels.
9. Frontal area and co-efficient of drag of rider and bike. (Try taking a recumbent down Alpe D'uez) Think also about drag racing cars employing chutes to stop.
10. Number of brakes applied and method of application - Single vs both brakes, continuous vs 'pumping' action.
11. Front to rear weight distribution - Anything near the extreme cases will affect #2.
If you're a bicycle rider, try seeing the dynamics of these above factors during braking. Studying braking and frictional action is very interesting and applies to a wide number of fields.
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interesting... I also did see your other post from November last year, I would probably try some of those tips to keep my tires exploding.
ReplyDeleteby the way, did you change your age to 16? I thought you were older than that, I thought you were in college being an engineering student... correct me if I'm wrong!
Zach,
ReplyDeleteAren't we all young at heart? ;)
Ron, great blog. I'm trying to wrap my head around #8. I think you are implying that a deeper section rim will have a harder time dissipating heat, but wouldn't that just increase the surface area?
ReplyDeleteTim : I meant just the contrary. Deep-section rims should provide a streamlined flow of air while non-aero wheels can lead to separation in the wake, disrupting dissipation. And yes, they have greater surface area too. I don't know how this works out for carbon rims, I'm speaking for alloys. The dilemma I was referring to is the fact that these wheels can pick up speed so fast.
ReplyDeleteRON: I wish sometimes (or a lot of times) that I was no older than 10 years, so I didn't have to worry about today's politics, world news, economy, price of gas increasing ridiculously... not a care in the world except how I will keep myself busy for the day and where to ride.
ReplyDeletecorrection in my previous post, I accidentally omitted a word. it should be "...tips to keep my tires FROM exploding."
Lol. I was actually dumbstruck.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you have to worry about any of these things you mention. You have only one life, make the best of it.
I want to keep this blog young too. I dont want to yap about how strict I keep my diet, or about doping controversies, or go into too much detail or numbers of anything... it misses the point. Life's too short to sit and worry about these things.
Makes a good case for disc brakes, despite their weight and complexities (I love mine, esp. in the rain).
ReplyDeleteAnother option would be some kind of venting on the nipple-side of the rim, but that might cause undue drag).
Thermally conductive spokes? :)
I don't know if spokes share in heat transfer to any appreciable degree for the little time the brakes are pressed hard. Much of the heat is concentrated at the braking point. Disc brakes are a very good option but among all kinds, rim brakes are the lightest. I think getting around this should keep some people busy.
ReplyDeleteRon,
ReplyDeleteI always thought the "wings" on brake shoes were to make getting the wheel back in a little easier; to kind of guide it in if it's not straight.
How warm should the rims get in the front from braking? I think my front rotors which are two years old (maybe 3) are beginning to warp... I thought I'd feel the rims when we got home this weekend to see if they were warm, and they were. But it didn't feel at all bad. How warm should they get? Are the rotors maybe getting too warm and the constant heating/cooling they are going through making the rotors warp?
ReplyDeleteWheels And Tires