tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post7192384690481395981..comments2024-03-13T02:16:08.135-04:00Comments on Cozy Beehive: John Bailey : Design Aspects Of The Factor 001 BikeRon Georgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18394865788996482667noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-46162273169858774272009-12-10T11:29:36.868-05:002009-12-10T11:29:36.868-05:00I can definitely see this as a training tool for r...I can definitely see this as a training tool for reconnaissance rides. I'd like to see how it compares with the CT/Velodyne spinscan feature. This bike is for the top 10% pros without a doubt. Cost/application comparison would only eek out a negligable advantage. I'm hoping these guys are using Ant+ sport integration instead of proprietary. So many advantages going the Ant+ route with the available slave/master ports on that hardware spec.spokejunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03843522840848008750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-18727887712378197412009-12-09T20:35:31.846-05:002009-12-09T20:35:31.846-05:00Jm : If that's the case, I don't understan...Jm : If that's the case, I don't understand the rationale behind the decision. Why would you ban a better safety component? Besides, if I'm thinking about this right, disc brakes also have larger surface area for better heat transfer in braking. Certainly it eludes me why disc brakes are banned by the UCI.Ron Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394865788996482667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-78823363360025674522009-12-09T16:03:42.606-05:002009-12-09T16:03:42.606-05:00UCI only bans disc brakes on cyclocross bikes spec...UCI only bans disc brakes on cyclocross bikes specifically, I do believe.jmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-83594602520466346562009-12-08T23:52:27.900-05:002009-12-08T23:52:27.900-05:00Well Rod, :) not sure if I would compare the Facto...Well Rod, :) not sure if I would compare the Factor001 to ENIAC. I mean I get your point. I think its related to expertise and knowledge. For Beru, this was the first major project with not only a bicycle, but implementing electronic systems into the bike. The engineering hours must have been a lot because of trial and error which translates to the overhead. Like you, I too believe that subsequent revisions of the bike in future could be much cheaper than what it is now. However, that will depend a lot on the promise of this bike, wouldn't it? I'm really wondering how many folks are going to purchase one of these.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12256394060474969622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-4795580749871342552009-12-08T22:40:54.822-05:002009-12-08T22:40:54.822-05:00Although I wouldn't (couldn't!) buy a 30K+...Although I wouldn't (couldn't!) buy a 30K+ bike, this is how tech progress is made - by making expensive protos. Remember ENIAC? Now we have frigging phones with more calculation power.<br /><br />More power to this guys for making the investment. I hope they (and other engineering firms) keep pushing the envelope. Will they take the place of Trek (or heck, even Calfee or other boutique builders) - no. I don't think it's their intent. Here I see a lot of people in really nice bikes that have never pinned a number :)(Ottawa, ON, for reference).Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909447364964331090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-23051699363765394912009-12-08T11:58:59.483-05:002009-12-08T11:58:59.483-05:00Mr. Bailey does mention its a "training tool&...Mr. Bailey does mention its a "training tool" for now. But what they're not realizing is, from a customer's standpoint, if they're spending all these dollars on a bike, they'd rather use it race in competitions as well. Who in their right frame of mind will buy a 36,000 dollar training tool? I think the fact that its UCI illegal and expensive outweigh its new innovations. Also, not to put down the bike, but companies like MetriGear are coming out with pedal spindle based power/torque measurement systems which are far cheaper to integrate into an existing bike. That's their competition.Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-51722216376404004922009-12-08T11:52:28.060-05:002009-12-08T11:52:28.060-05:00Definitely not UCI legal with the disc brakes, but...Definitely not UCI legal with the disc brakes, but at least the bike will actually stop more effectively.<br /><br />Really interested in the integrated monitoring for torque, angular velocities, etc. There's big potential in this, it'd be cool if in a few years high-end bikes integrated some of these. Heck, some are already making neater connections for DI2!Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909447364964331090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13887692.post-73437887776244674012009-12-08T09:48:53.251-05:002009-12-08T09:48:53.251-05:00Lovely piece about the bike. And no, I didn't ...Lovely piece about the bike. And no, I didn't hear it was out yet. How are they going to 'cater' to professional teams. I don't think the bike was UCI legal, the last I heard of it.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16268869622833968439noreply@blogger.com